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This guy: *managed to block and react to almost every hit jiren made *hit tell us that he is receiving the same blows goku received from jiren *we see visible effort with jiren when he was throwing his fists towards him *managed to receive two direct attacks from jiren without getting...

Piccolo thinks that because vegeta surpassed goku he can take care of the androids: Of course, afterwards (when the androids defeated them) he said he didn't expect them to be that strong: I think he expected them to be above trunks, but weaker than goku or vegeta. What do you think?

-ssjbkkx20 Goku -genkidama -ep 111 hit -time cage How far does gogeta get?

Goku says he and Vegeta can't deflect it: Elder kai thinks vegetto can push the blast: The blast was so fast that it couldn't give goku time to teleport: Had it not been for kibitoshin, they would've died. And metamoran was clearly a non option due to how much time it lasts to put it in...

Let's assume that goku has unlimited stamina and both are their pre rosat selves. Would goku having a slight disadvantage in power with unlimited stamina be enough for vegeta to lose?

1- spc 2- ssj2 vegeta pre majin 3- lssj broly second coming 4- ssj2 kid gohan 5- ssj2 gohan post z sword Considering how he stomped ssj2 vegeta (post majin) & good buu while messing around, how many of this do you think he is oneshotting? If he can't oneshot, he loses.

Or would it just be in reference to gohan, goten and trunks (which is the same as they're the only relevant ones in this movie)? Regardless, it would just mean ssj vegeta as ssj2 vegeta was unseen before majin vegeta turned into it.

In numbers, how would you put? FP PC = 1 SPC = ? ssj2 gohan = ? FP PC kamehameha = ? ssj2 gohan kamehameha (the one who countered it) = ? ssj2 gohan kamehameha holding back vs spc = ? SPC kamehameha = ? ssj2 gohan kamehameha father and son (fully unleashed) = ?

Dyspo in his light maximum speed mode vs goku and vegeta in just their ssjblue forms. How this would have gone in the tournament? Excluding ssjblue kaioken and evolved blue form.

What are your gaps for: *Vegeta and trunks pre rosat *Vegeta and trunks 1st rosat *Vegeta and trunks cell games

How much of a gap do you have in between them?

What do you think?

Who wins? How could this broly have received it?

Namek battle Cooler revenge Future trunks history Cooler return Androids saga Imperfect cell saga Perfect cell saga The invincible power Cell games Free the future Broly 2nd coming 25th budokai & buu saga Fusion reborn Fusion saga Kid buu saga

Who wins?

Who wins? Had it instead of goku been trunks and piccolo, how things would have gone? All of them are pre rosat and pre kami fusion.

Your thoughts?

I have a 1.25 gap in between them, what do you have?

How do you think cell would've received the final flash had he actived his power weighted form for a moment instead of just using his regular perfect form? This is the form I am talking about:

We know both are weaker than super vegeta. But is there a reason to believe of one being stronger than the other?