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  1. Spiral-Force

    Gohan in GT

    It's worth noting that Goku wasn't speaking directly at Trunks or Pan, he was eyeing Rilldo. Goku was basically thinking out loud it seems. Do you still find that part of the scene strange?
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    Gohan in GT

    Don't think it matters much. Goku is firmly above Trunks, didn't need anything near SSJ3 for the fight, yet was still happy to fight Rilldo by the looks of it. Early-mid GT was quite scarce of fighters of any worth, so when someone popped up that was decent and wouldn't run away (like Ledgic)...
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    Gohan in GT

    I'd argue that power should be the focus above all else. If a villain shows their power and it's fully acknowledged by the person gauging it, I don't see what more familiarity would be required. I'd need to see something from Goku to suggest he'd deliberately make a comparison that waters down 1...
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    Gohan in GT

    I understand what you mean. If Rilldo went out there and flatlined Gohan, it would reinforce the scale that's indicated from the Goku battle. However, overall I'd characterise such a scenario as being "too little, too late" as they say, as Rilldo got vaporised soon after that encounter, and Buu...
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    Gohan in GT

    At that point, Rilldo's relevance was almost entirely zero. Even in the Baby Arc, he was only semi-relevant. So I could see why that encounter didn't offer much of anything. While a snoozefest - from the little fighting that did happen, Rilldo appeared to have the upperhand.
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    Gohan in GT

    The guide said he continued training, but he had no notable solo dub in the show, so it's like - who cares. I'm not part of the camp that says he got weaker though.
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    Gray buu vs ssj2 goku and vegeta

    Evil Buu gets free food.
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    Had android 16 been in the future, do you think he would've been equally cruel as 17 & 18 were?

    I'd want to see the dynamic between him and 17. Present 17 thought of himself as the strongest artificial human, then was taken aback by 16 being better. Future 17 seemed to have similar pride, while being a lot colder. Perhaps there would be lingering resentment over that, but it's anyone's...
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    How strong was kid buu's huge energy ball?

    Wouldn't say far beyond since it's his own power. If you mean in terms of pulling it off, then I would say it's not guaranteed since Kid Buu likes to apply consistent pressure on his opponent.
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    How strong were the androids 17 & 18 in piccolo's mind?

    It's tough. Prior to Vegeta blasting off, no one was like "Vegeta's got this", but coming out the victor against 3 fighters suggests a notable difference. SSJ Vegeta -- at that stage -- had yet to be tested in an all-out gruelling battle, so there was still room for the idea that there might be...
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    How strong was kid buu's huge energy ball?

    The story tells us that Goku at max power can handle Buu, so that blast is below what SSJ3 Goku can do if he doesn't screw around and chip his power away in a brawl.
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    Gap between fp ssj goku cg and fp perfect cell

    Goku was strong enough to entertain him (even warranting a continuation request from Cell after the fight), but that's all he could muster. A pattern we saw from SSJG Goku vs Beerus, BoG.
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    Super Perfect Cell VS SSJ2 Gohan

    While Gohan was in need of external motivation, I think Cell's attitude was a roadblock for him also; he was too high off that power. Goes either way IMO.
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    How The Fandom Has Evolved

    At the core, there have been two main categories: (1) casual fans, and (2) fans that like to dig into things a bit more; powers, plot, characterization, and so on. However, there's plenty more resources compared to before. Category 1, for example, has spawned reaction channels capable of...
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    Which DB invention would imrprove the world the most?

    Even outside of what Hector mentioned, given that robbery storylines wouldn't be of much interest in a show like this, there was no incentive to explore or thoroughly establish capsule laws, potentially opening up issues related to ownership. Could setbacks be resolved? Possibly. But it's...
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    How Strong Is Boo Saga Tenshinhan’s Shin Kikoho?

    I could see it being stronger than before since his training has got to account for something, right? But wouldn't say it alters his tier though.
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    Does saiyan armour give any defensive boost? How does it work? Why did 530,000 Freeza wear saiyan armour?

    Besides a bit of a defensive boost, it helps with not looking as rowdy after a hard fought battle like gi wearers. I think characters like Vegeta are a bit more aware of things like that. It'd also be odd to see someone like Frieza in martial arts clothes IMO.
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    Goku SSJ3 (M12) vs Gotenks SSJ (Post)?

    Would be hard not to give it to Goku, since he was at least front and centre in the main battle, while Gotenks had no comparable challenge. Maybe if Gotenks goes SSJ3 it'd be a fun fight, but Goku seems more amped in this era of the films compared to the normal timeline, while with Gotenks it's...
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    Techniques that others should have learnt?

    A way to further refine Spirit Bomb formation, perhaps. Watching a spent Goku managing to evade or withstand dangerous assaults for ages is hard to take seriously, as much as we want him to succeed.
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    Would you say Vegeta's character regressed in earlier Boo arc?

    It just wasn't an exciting heel turn IMO. "Here we go again..." sums up that fiasco.
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