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Postby GreatSaiyaman123 » 11 Jan 2018, 17:00

I always found funny and fucked up at the same time how Kuririn and Tenshinhan couldn't budge that door. I mean, aren't they at the very least closing on planet busters by this time?
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Postby SSJ2 » 11 Jan 2018, 17:04

It was said in the Daizesnhuu the door was built with Katchin, so it makes sense I guess.
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Postby SSJ2 » 11 Jan 2018, 17:06

The Namek arc hooks me every time. Why can't this quality be found now!?
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Postby Evil Vegeta » 11 Jan 2018, 18:18

There was a debate awhile back on first form Freeza's power-up being different than the power-up in his second form.

I don't really see how you can distinguish an actual difference other than the wording being different. Since Krillin and Piccolo noted that Freeza's power went up, that could only logically mean he can control his power in his first form as well. Vegeta makes it seem like this concept was never displayed prior to that. You could even see Vegeta reacting to Freeza's power-up.

Vegeta's the same guy who claimed he needed Goku's help the most when it came to fighting Freeza and later tells Krillin Goku's low-class status means he won't get a Zenkai. Vegeta is all over the place.

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Postby GreatSaiyaman123 » 11 Jan 2018, 18:43

Is Vegeta aware Kaioken is a technique and not Goku's full power?

I don't think Vegeta changing his mind is contraditory tbh. Freeza's power is way beyond what he expected, so while Goku could help against 1st form, he couldn't against 3rd/4th form Freeza.
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Re: Dragon Ball Discussion

Postby Evil Vegeta » 11 Jan 2018, 20:34

It's more about Vegeta assuming Goku wouldn't become any stronger from healing because he's a low-class Saiyan. Especially when Goku pointed out that Vegeta had become strong enough to fight Jheese after healing. Vegeta figured out the Zenkai trait after the battle on Earth, so for Goku to be aware of this, it'd only make sense if he also experienced it.

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Postby GreatSaiyaman123 » 11 Jan 2018, 21:19

I think Vegeta assumed that Goku, as a low class Saiyan, has got on his ceiling and cannot grow any stronger, independent if it is training or via Zenkais.
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Postby SSJ2 » 11 Jan 2018, 21:24

But with all due respect, that is a retarded train of thought for Vegeta.. He witnessed two incredibly increases in Goku's power.. 1) After his death to Raditz, he went to 8k, and then in just six days went from 8k to 90k.. Why would he think Goku couldn't receive those benefits?
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Postby Evil Vegeta » 11 Jan 2018, 21:52

Someone else said Vegeta probably said that so Krillin could hurry up and attack him.

To me, that makes more sense.

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Postby ahill1 » 12 Jan 2018, 16:14

As for Vegeta's statement on 2nd form Freeza, I dunno if someone has brought it before, but I don't think it inherently means 1st form Freeza couldn't control his battle power... right before powering up Freeza stated how he can't control his power well in that form, so Vegeta might just be surprised that Freeza in his 2nd form can control his battle power as well, as in "so he is capable of controlling his battle power in this form, that he had previously stated it's hard to control?". That is, Vegeta saw how 1st form Freeza could control his battle power, but still wasn't sure that Freeza in his 2nd form could do the same.

It's either that, or what Freeza did in his 1st form was akin to what Vegeta and Nappa did on Earth, where the Z warriors' reactions clearly implied they were changing their battle power, yet they couldn't really change it... dunno.

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Re: Dragon Ball Discussion

Postby Evil Vegeta » 13 Jan 2018, 02:48

That's actually a good point. I always took Vegeta's statement to be a revelation in itself, but you could say it was made in conjunction with Freeza's statement.

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Re: Dragon Ball Discussion

Postby GreatSaiyaman123 » 13 Jan 2018, 11:32

Why the fuck nobody can find Tenshinhan on the Boo Arc? Couldn't those guys track ki from people was weak as Bulma?
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Postby Idea of Gaslight » 13 Jan 2018, 13:19

Obviously the size of that man's shoulders can't be measured by mere ki sensors :donovan
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Re: Dragon Ball Discussion

Postby Evil Vegeta » 13 Jan 2018, 15:36

Tien was probably suppressed. He did say he wasn't going to see any of them again.

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Re: Dragon Ball Discussion

Postby GreatSaiyaman123 » 13 Jan 2018, 15:40

He said that because he was leaving and probably wouldn't come across the Z Fighters. It's not like he was hidding from them.
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