Goku in M10

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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Pakl » 01 Jul 2016, 10:54

Even in the Manga Goku went SSjin 2 a few days before the movie was revealed... He was clearly just SSjin.....
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 04 Jul 2016, 15:21

So Gohan really did lose 50% of his Ki during that final push against Cell and it was Goku's borrowed power as a Super Saiyan that gave Gohan the energy he needed to defeat him? That makes Super Perfect Cell much weaker then originally thought.

Kid Gohan SSj2 > Kid Gohan SSj2 (50% Ki) + Goku Mssj > Super Perfect Cell > Kid Gohan SSj2 (50% Ki) > Perfect Cell (Full Power)
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby xmysticgohanx » 04 Jul 2016, 15:26

So Gohan really did lose 50% of his Ki during that final push against Cell and it was Goku's borrowed power as a Super Saiyan that gave Gohan the energy he needed to defeat him? That makes Super Perfect Cell much weaker then originally thought.

Kid Gohan SSj2 > Kid Gohan SSj2 (50% Ki) + Goku Mssj > Super Perfect Cell > Kid Gohan SSj2 (50% Ki) > Perfect Cell (Full Power)
I think it's CG Gohan SSJ2 > CG Gohan SSJ2 (50% ki) + base Goku ~ SPC

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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Pakl » 04 Jul 2016, 15:57

No in the Anime its SSjin 2 Gohan + SSjin Goku > SPC because the Anime states PC is stronger than Gohan... The Daizenshuu refers to the Anime only
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 04 Jul 2016, 16:08

The Daizenshuu clearly shows the original Japanese Manga next to its text. It's referencing the Manga not the Anime.

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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Pakl » 04 Jul 2016, 16:12

No it refers to both and has contradictions.. Goku didnt give Gohan ki in the Manga he was in base

Also the line in the Daizenshuu is based on Gohan saying Goku gave him his power
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 04 Jul 2016, 16:16

No it refers to both and has contradictions.. Goku didnt give Gohan ki in the Manga he was in base

Also the line in the Daizenshuu is based on Gohan saying Goku gave him his power
The Daizenshuu shows the Original Manga next to it's panel, so it's referencing the original Manga not the Anime. Arguing that it's referencing the Anime is completely unsupported and contradicts what the Daizenshuu obviously tells us.

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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Super Saiyan » 04 Jul 2016, 16:27

Doesn't the Daizenshuu also obviously tell us that Goten is equal to Gohan?
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 04 Jul 2016, 16:29

It tells us a whole bunch of weird shit, but it certainly doesn't say that it's reference to the Cell Games was a reference to the anime, especially when it has a Manga panel next to it's wall of text.
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