Goku in M10

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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Pakl » 10 Apr 2016, 08:56

Its not called family KHH... Thats a fanmade

Goku vs Broli is like Goku with Gohan vs Cell... Both instances Goku gave his power but the main power came from his sons..m
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 10 Apr 2016, 10:49

I think it's obvious Goku was there. There would be no other reason for drawing it that way. It clearly took the combined strength of Goten, Goku & Teen Gohan to defeat Broly.
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Pakl » 10 Apr 2016, 12:51

Goku gave his power vs Cell too in the Anime so its the same
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Fearless Zamasu » 11 Apr 2016, 12:31

I don't remember Goku giving his power in the anime.
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 11 Apr 2016, 13:08

I don't recall Goku giving his energy to Gohan in the anime, he was merely rooting him on from the other-world.
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Super Saiyan » 11 Apr 2016, 14:08

The Daizenshuu claims Gohan borrowed Goku's power, but that is bs. Goku gave him the mental edge to push on.
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 11 Apr 2016, 14:17

The Daizenshuu is bullshit in general. It's an ancient book and was relevant at one time, but it no longer is.
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby HUEBR_Tapion » 11 Apr 2016, 14:23

The Daizenshuu is nowhere near bullshit. It may has some mistakes, but IT IS pretty reliable when it doesn't contradict the manga.
And Nappa's 4,000 number is given in the Daizenshuu, and yet you follow it.
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Gotenks's power:

Base Gotenks Pre = SSj2 Majin Vegeta
SSj Gotenks Pre >> SSj3 Goku
Base Gotenks Post >> SSj Gotenks Pre

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Re: Goku in M10

Postby kriss- » 11 Apr 2016, 14:24

Nah, the Daizenshuu is bullshit, lmao. Actually, I follow Nappa being 4,500.
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Super Saiyan Overlord1007 » 12 Jun 2016, 20:12

I don't find the Diaz to be reliable at times

Majin Vegeta > SSJ Gotenks?
Gohan = Goten?

I'm sure Goku gave Gohan mental support against Cell and nothing more. Goku in M10 I have no idea. Since when could Shenron hear a person's thoughts and grant wishes as so, especially without showing up. Why didn't he show up when Trunks was distracting Broly? Where the Dragonballs still charging? Why would Shenron bring Goku back to help defeat Broly when he couldn't bring Goku back 7 years prior?
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby xmysticgohanx » 12 Jun 2016, 22:18

I don't find the Diaz to be reliable at times

Majin Vegeta > SSJ Gotenks?
Gohan = Goten?

I'm sure Goku gave Gohan mental support against Cell and nothing more. Goku in M10 I have no idea. Since when could Shenron hear a person's thoughts and grant wishes as so, especially without showing up. Why didn't he show up when Trunks was distracting Broly? Where the Dragonballs still charging? Why would Shenron bring Goku back to help defeat Broly when he couldn't bring Goku back 7 years prior?
The Daiz says base post rosat > Majin Vegeta > base pre rosat Gotenks. Gotenks is showed in base in the Daiz pic.

Gohan = Goten is likely due to post rosat stuff
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Atem King of Niger » 13 Jun 2016, 19:26

Toriyama interviews have contradicted the Daizenshuu several times, and while I find his senile responses unreliable as well, it's the word of an author vs. a bunch of guys sitting on a desk who didn't write the series being paid to write a book on it, so I'd take the word of the author. The Daizenshuu is only as reliable as those Shonen Jump entries Toriyama didn't write, like the backstory of the Ginyu Force and the Saiyan arc levels that have Roshi at 190 and Kami lower than Daimao.
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Pakl » 19 Jun 2016, 18:00

Actually Gogan said Goku gave him power in the Anime.... There is a reason he was SSjin and not base like in the Manga

SPC is stated to be stronger than Gohan in the Anime
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Pakl » 19 Jun 2016, 18:01

I don't find the Diaz to be reliable at times

Majin Vegeta > SSJ Gotenks?
Gohan = Goten?

I'm sure Goku gave Gohan mental support against Cell and nothing more. Goku in M10 I have no idea. Since when could Shenron hear a person's thoughts and grant wishes as so, especially without showing up. Why didn't he show up when Trunks was distracting Broly? Where the Dragonballs still charging? Why would Shenron bring Goku back to help defeat Broly when he couldn't bring Goku back 7 years prior?
The Daiz says base post rosat > Majin Vegeta > base pre rosat Gotenks. Gotenks is showed in base in the Daiz pic.

Gohan = Goten is likely due to post rosat stuff
All the characters appear in base in their bio
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Re: Goku in M10

Postby Fantastische Hure » 19 Jun 2016, 18:16

Actually Gogan said Goku gave him power in the Anime.... There is a reason he was SSjin and not base like in the Manga

SPC is stated to be stronger than Gohan in the Anime
Really? Where was that? I don't remember.
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