Is Black Frieza close to the power of Beerus or the power of the Hakaishins in general?

[SIAD]

Is Black Frieza close to the power of Beerus or the power of the Hakaishins in general?

 

[SIAD]

@Papasmurf
@Animelover5487
@Power Level Guy
@Dagon
@MikaelHarding

 

[Papasmurf]

V-Jump says he is but I don't trust it until we get confirmation in the manga.

 

[Dagon]

From a writing standpoint it would be an interesting plot point to make Freeza a god of destruction candidate. Beerus liked that Freeza was doing his job for him in the past.

Ultimately we can't know how strong Black Freeza is until he becomes the primary villain again.

 

[Animelover5487]

Not close to Beerus level. Beerus didn't care at all when he heard about Black Freeza one-shotting Goku and Vegeta.

 

[MikaelHarding]

Not close to Beerus level. Beerus didn't care at all when he heard about Black Freeza one-shotting Goku and Vegeta.

he's at the lowest realm of GoD level

 

[BedroomBully]

Manga wise he can probably be stronger
than some of the lower GODs.

 

[MikaelHarding]

Manga wise he can probably be stronger
than some of the lower GODs.

maybe

 

[SIAD]

Does anyone have the quote where it is said that Black Frieza is approaching the Hakaishin level?

 

[Papasmurf]

Does anyone have the quote where it is said that Black Frieza is approaching the Hakaishin level?

V-Jump stated that

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1737088140815536537

 

[Future Warrior]

That statement likely means Beerus specifically.

Not all Gods of Destruction have to rival each other in power.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Battle royale seems to place all the GoDs in the same level with Beerus slightly on top.

 

[Pyro]

Battle royale seems to place all the GoDs in the same level with Beerus slightly on top.

Does the battle royale make sense anymore, given Beerus has stayed on top while Goku and Vegeta have far, far, far surpassed ToP Jiren, who's > Belmod?

 

[Papasmurf]

Does the battle royale make sense anymore, given Beerus has stayed on top while Goku and Vegeta have far, far, far surpassed ToP Jiren, who's > Belmod?

I honestly think the Beerus is a moving goalpost meme makes the most sense. Nigga openly said there's no limit to his power after all and he taught Vegeta the basics of Ultra Ego after all. He's probably stronger by magnitudes and magnitudes over his ToP self.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Does the battle royale make sense anymore, given Beerus has stayed on top while Goku and Vegeta have far, far, far surpassed ToP Jiren, who's > Belmod?

I think people overestimate Goku’s post-ToP gains. 73 Moro doesn’t have to be stronger than Jiren, and UI Goku was nerfed in Granolah Saga.

If we try hard enough, we can squeeze Beerus only being a couple times abobe Belmond right now. We still haven’t seen Beerus’ upper limits, however…

 

[SIAD]

@Papasmurf
@Pyro

And do you think the other Hakaishins got stronger after the ToP? Do you think Merus was stronger than Beerus at the beginning of the Moorish Arc?

 

[Future Warrior]

I think people overestimate Goku’s post-ToP gains. 73 Moro doesn’t have to be stronger than Jiren, and UI Goku was nerfed in Granolah Saga.

If we try hard enough, we can squeeze Beerus only being a couple times abobe Belmond right now. We still haven’t seen Beerus’ upper limits, however…

The bloat some people have is crazy.

Yeah, Beerus is being unshamefully forced as a goal post. For what reason would that warrant jumping the gun and say he's literally dozens of times stronger than Goku and Vegeta?

Let's all take deep breaths.

 

[Pyro]

It's better than still having Broly > Beerus.

 

[Future Warrior]

Gogeta Blue being only a smidgen above SSJ Gogeta