Recent Chapter Discussion

[Future Warrior]

The only issue with them being stronger than Kaidou is why they bothered letting the yonko and shichibukai exist at all

They’ve mentioned several times how they cared about maintaining the balance of the world. The existence of pirates is not without benefit to them.

 

[SSJ2]

Is it actually confirmed that they are stronger than Kaido? From what I've seen so far I'd say they are comparable to Yonko level at best. Probably a tier below it individually.

 

[Future Warrior]

Nah it’s not confirmed. We only know that Warcury is more durable than Kaido.

 

[SSJ2]

Which kind of makes sense since it seems like the Gorosei have fruits superior even to ancient/mythical zoans.

 

[Papasmurf]

So is Bonney going to join the crew

 

[Future Warrior]

Probably

 

[sei'taer]

They’ve mentioned several times how they cared about maintaining the balance of the world. The existence of pirates is not without benefit to them.

The balance between the navy and the Yonko. The Gorosei would easily tip that balance.

Is it actually confirmed that they are stronger than Kaido? From what I've seen so far I'd say they are comparable to Yonko level at best. Probably a tier below it individually.

I mean they're fighting Awakened Luffy so they're at least as strong, and they don't take any damage. Kind of like a buu situation with their durability.

So is Bonney going to join the crew

She's Shanks/Buggy material for the Straw Hat crew. There's really nowhere else for her to go now that she's got a target on her back as large as she does.

 

[Future Warrior]

The balance between the navy and the Yonko. The Gorosei would easily tip that balance.

The Yonko is part of the balance that they want to maintain lol.

Their existence is a good thing.

 

[Future Warrior]

The pieces are starting to fit together now as the story is moving towards the finish line.

 

[SSJ2]

Holy shit Vegapunk's head lol

 

[sei'taer]

Well Rayleigh starting a ship coating business and Crocus making his home inside a whale make a ton of sense now.

 

[Future Warrior]

Might explain Tequila Wolf too.

 

[sei'taer]

Might explain Tequila Wolf too.

Maybe, are the islands sinking or is the water level rising?

It'd also explain why the Seatrain was important enough to pardon Tom.

 

[Future Warrior]

Maybe, are the islands sinking or is the water level rising?

It'd also explain why the Seatrain was important enough to pardon Tom.

Based on context clues, I'd say water level rising.

The Gorosei are insistent on aquiring as much of the Mother Flame as possible, which implies it's requirement towards enacting their plan for the ''great cleansing''. One use of the Mother Flame on Lulucia was said to cause the sea level to increase by one meter.

So we can at least speculate that they are planning to successively use it across multiple islands, thereby causing the ocean to eventually flood the entire world (Marijoa left unharmed due to its altitude)

 

[SSJ2]

What do we think the Mother Flame actually is? Is it powering an ancient weapon?

 

[Future Warrior]

Maybe Uranus.

Although I always thought Pluton was supposed to be the vehicle of destruction. A bit strange that 2 out of 3 of the ancient weapons offer the same results.

 

[sei'taer]

Based on context clues, I'd say water level rising.

The Gorosei are insistent on aquiring as much of the Mother Flame as possible, which implies it's requirement towards enacting their plan for the ''great cleansing''. One use of the Mother Flame on Lulucia was said to cause the sea level to increase by one meter.

So we can at least speculate that they are planning to successively use it across multiple islands, thereby causing the ocean to eventually flood the entire world (Marijoa left unharmed due to its altitude)

Yeah after reading more into it this is it. Yeah and the only other clear use of mother flame/Uranus is Enies lobby which is right next to one piece Venice.

Also the Noah's Arc great flood symbolism is pretty clear.

 

[Future Warrior]

I’m telling you, we are at a point in the story where Oda is able to finally execute the ideas he’s had hidden in the back of his head since Pre-TS lol.

 

[sei'taer]

I’m telling you, we are at a point in the story where Oda is able to finally execute the ideas he’s had hidden in the back of his head since Pre-TS lol.

Oh this has clearly been planned a very long time. Not one of the things like Haki where it's unclear of when it was conceptualized fully.

Like this is the kind of reveal that gets people to re-read the entire series.