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    How does Baby's power scale with his hosts?

    How does Baby's power scale with his hosts? Is it (Baby+base Saiyan) x SSJ or Baby (base x SSJ)? Such as: Overall addition: Baby: 100 Host: 300 ~Host SSJ: 15,000 ~Baby-Host Base: 400 ~Baby-Host SSJ: 15,100 Base integration: Baby: 100 Host: 300 ~Host SSJ: 15,000 ~Baby-Host Base: 400 ~Baby-Host...
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    Steel Manning Grade 3 Trunks = 10x Androids Saga SSJ Trunks

    The Legend of Manga says Grade 3 Trunks "acquired a force ten times greater" but doesn't specify what it's 10x greater than. This is an attempt to steel man the argument that it is 10x Androids Saga SSJ Trunks, comparing new and former highest forms' overall power. A benefit to this theory is...
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    Buff Buu should have never existed

    Buff Buu screws up the lore and power scaling monstrously. With his power greater than Super Buu, if Kaioshin absorption works additionally like with mortals, it would mean somehow South Kaioshin was strong enough to free the Z sword but didn't. If it works more exponentially then it's just very...
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    Feats of Infinite Magnitude = Infinite Battle Power?

    Had this idea presented to me. The idea is that to perform a feat of infinite magnitude, like destroying the "endless/infinite" universe, or shaking a realm of infinite size, one needs a "power level" of infinity. But not just the colloquial sense of "power level" you see discussed for other...
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    Cindy Campbell(Scary Movie) vs Mr. Bean

    Let us know your thoughts.
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    Potara vs Super Saiyan 4

    A guide page for the GT Hero's Journey special anime comic says Vegetto "may be even story than a super Saiyan 4!" How do you take this? 1. Z Super Vegetto >/~ GT SSJ4 Goku(first appearance) 2. Potara SSJ ~ SSJ4 relative to individual base powers 3. Vegetto SSJ3 >/~ SSJ4 relative to...
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    Scaling Late Baby Saga & More

    I just went through the GT episodes with Golden Great Ape Baby-Vegeta and there are frustratingly few statements to put a concrete number on his power. Right away I'll dismiss the 10,000x GGA multiplier as it is based off of an assumption that a 1,000x increase in Blutz waves for Baby-Vegeta...
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    Movie Scaling Integrated with Anime/Manga

    For the sake of this mental exercise let's see how the movies can align with the anime/manga scaling under the premise that they are all somehow in one timeline. I will start with Cooler as that's the one on my mind for now. For Movie 5, there's two primary ways to scale it: 1. Base Goku >...
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    Official Power Levels Spreadsheet

    I made a resource to detail all of the power levels officially published. So far it's just the anime and manga. I'll add more later. These are not my personal levels, it's from the official sources. I started by copying from the Dragon Ball wiki but I corrected some errors and reformatted the...
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    DB Scaling without power levels

    I'm inspired a bit by non-DB power scalers on youtube, like Comic Books vs The World or Key Issues. They power scale MCU and DCEU among others, focusing on physics types of scaling. So what if we did the same for DB? Ignore not just power levels but power gap logic based on power levels, and...
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    SSJ2 Goku>Movie 10 Broly?

    At the end of Bio Broly when the Broly clone dies, Goku gets called for help when Broly is rampaging in Hell. We can infer from this that Broly's soul returns to a clone body in the living world, otherwise there would be a Broly on Earth and the Afterlife simultaneously. Bio-Broly was before...
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    Freeza vs Silver Surfer

    Who wins, the galactic Emperor or the herald of the world-eater? Round 1: Namek Freeza Round 2: Post-Training Freeza Round 3: Golden Freeza
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    My Power Chain(Late Sagas): CRITIQUE NOW!

    Here's my current placement of characters, from strongest to weakest, with a Legend to help: Legend: >>>>: Large(tank) gap >>>: Significant(stomp) gap >>: Considerable advantage(stomp with effort) gap >: Notable(requires effort) gap ~: On par(practically equal either way) =: Absolutely equal...
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    Should we make a Wiki?

    The original dragon ball wiki is full of inaccurate information and does not distinguish between the English dub and the Japanese, or power levels that come from obscure video games and ones from the actual series. I'm thinking a select few to edit totally protected wiki that only admins can...
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    Piccolo's "Explosive Energy" Statement

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    Goku/Freeza Namek Powers Debate

    We all know about Goku/150mil and Freeza 120mil and some people have a problem with it because Freeza seemed to put up a good fight until he started tiring. What are your thoughts about it? I see two ways to look at it: 1: Freeza is more than 120mil, up to 140 mil, then weakens to 120mil or...
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    SSJ2 Gohan's Rage

    So I was talking to the mods at Neoseeker and they believe Gohan's rage boost is his SSJ2 form. They say Kid Gohan has no rage boost but Adult Gohan has a rage boost that can bring him up to Kid Gohan levels. I believe that's a contradictory belief. Adult Gohan turned SSJ2 at the tournament...
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    Android 16 vs All Pre-RoSaT Z-Fighters

    Android 16 takes on all Android Arc Pre-RoSaT Z-Fighters, including Goku, by himself. Can he fulfill his mission?
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    Small Additions That Would Have Improved DBZ

    NB4 "Shoulda ended at 'X' story arc." Small additions that I think could have improved the series are: Tenshinhan, Krillin, Chouzu, and Yamcha learn Kaio-ken Cell has infinite stamina in Perfect form because of 17 and 18s cybernetics so Goku isn't a moron by giving him a senzu bean. Super...
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    The Mountain vs Azog The Defiler

    Ser Gregor Clegane, aka The Mountain, vs Azog The Defiler as seen in Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy. Who would win?
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